we will use the dues to contribute to your campaign, you will get those from us come you keep doing this. the loss o laws that force peopo join our unions so we have more money to share with you. it is reprehensible because it takes away basic human right, the right to choose whether or not to join the union. ashley: what are the unions frightened of? so they will be backing out. >> they are afraid of the symbolism. this is motown, this is detroit, this is the heart of the american automobile industry. ashley: the union is still alive and kicking. we're just not forcing people to pay the money. >> people have a right to associate and the right to join labor unions. i am not against labor unions. like the end of the day at 5:00 for most people, you like weekends off? that was free unions really organizing often against the state. now the state it's in their pocket by saying you must contribute to this union whether you like it or not. tracy: they hold so much power and yet their numbers are diminishing by the second. >> yes, that is also what they fear. without the power of the state to c